WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT AN “ASSAULT RIFLE?”

Posted on: December 11th, 2013 by Will Rodriguez 54 Comments

Essay by Yankee Papa (all rights reserved)

Someone asks you, “Why would anyone want an “assault rifle…?”

The hysteria over “assault rifles” has swept a large segment of the population.  A senseless tragedy has been used by a hostile Administration as a propaganda “Reichstag Fire…”

The constant drumbeat plays on the worst fears of those with no training or experience in handling firearms.  Back in the 1970s a well known advice columnist beat the drum… advising readers that their children could “order bazookas from mail order catalogs…” I’m sure that letters were sent to her advising that mail order of any modern firearms stopped in 1968… But like the rest of her ilk, she did not let the facts deter her campaign.

Of course, with few exceptions, private American citizens do not own “assault rifles…”  An assault rifle is a military weapon of intermediate caliber that is designed to fire on full auto by the use of a selector switch.  But the campaign of fear and loathing is designed to convince the uninformed that “If it looks scary, it must be an “assault weapon…”

Ruger1022

Above is an ad for a Ruger@ 10-22 plinker in its standard form.  Obviously the ad company was ignorant as they have it listed as a “semi-automatic shotgun…”  Still… harmless looking.  But the next ad is for a kit to make the 10-22 look like a German MG-42 machine gun.  No alteration has been made to the rifle’s function or rate of fire… it is simply an elaborate (and purely cosmetic) stock.

MG-42

But now, in the eyes of those who stoke the fires of the witch hunt… and the hysterical… it is obviously an “assault weapon…”  Any firearm with a bayonet lug automatically becomes an “assault weapon” (used in drive-by bayonetings no doubt…)

Sometimes the media refers to “high powered assault weapons…”  A 30.06 is a high powered rifle… an M-16 is an assault rifle (firing a round smaller than full-sized, but larger than pistol size)… but by definition (and practical use) high powered assault rifles are of no use… they can’t be controlled in the full auto mode.  The M-14 full-auto version was a failure. 

A Browning Automatic Rifle can handle full auto, but its weight and size and caliber takes it far out of the assault rifle category… and into the realm of light machine guns and essentially out of the hands of most citizens.

If most soldiers insist on referring to any metal fragments coming from an explosion as “shrapnel” (actual shrapnel is a specific type of load), I suppose that it is too much for the uninformed to care about the difference between an AR-15 and an M-16.

Back in the late ’60s the anti-gun movement ranted that it was only against “Saturday night specials” (like “assault weapons” sometimes loosely defined…) In essence, inexpensive handguns… (all that a poor family could afford for home defense.)  Endless promises were made that the movement would never go after peoples’ “long guns…”

Using Soviet style negotiations, (“What’s ours is ours, what’s yours is negotiable…”) they have spent generations chipping away at firearm ownership. They are no longer interested in debate… there is nothing to debate… they are right and those who do not agree are demented or evil.

Millions of gun owners are portrayed as hicks who keep “assault weapons” to “Kill Commies for Christ…” or “Mutants after the balloon goes up…”  That is, when of course, they are not planning to gun down countless school children.

The witch hunters do not want the mobs educated… and the hysterical refuse to listen to the facts (innocence is no defense…)  But there are some out there who are not hysterical… who think that there is room for “compromise…” They are the ones who are the target of a “Fabian campaign…” They will listen… up to a point.

So… one of these people asks you, “Why would anyone want an assault rifle?”… you have a brief window of opportunity. Getting technical is not the best way to start… even when they understand the difference between an AR-15 and an M-16… the former is still an “assault rifle” to them.

Going into the 2nd Amendment is likely to cause their eyes to glaze over.  Yes, that is a massive part of the argument, but it is unlikely to be a good opening move.  The Founding Fathers used the term “The States” when they meant powers reserved to the States and “The People” when they meant the People.  The ownership of 2nd Amendment weapons by those who choose to own them might be one definition of the difference between a “Citizen” and a “Subject…”

But the 2nd Amendment has been deliberately construed to mean “The right of the Government to bear arms shall not be infringed…” and applying the right to the People is actively demonized… Unless you are in a long and casual scholarly debate… the 2nd Amendment is not your best opening move.

From the early 1980s until 1995, I ran a modest “newsletter…”  Friends from various places would send me articles and cartoons and poems.  From time to time I would print up and mail collections to these people.  By late 1995 most of us were on the web and items of interest could be sent to all interested in a matter of minutes.  The newsletter ceased to exist. 

Gangs infiltrate Chicago PD cropped

But the last edition had a story that has refused to go away… gangs infiltrating the police.  Above is the article printed in 1995… I also made mention of gang members in the military.  If you read the article you will see that not only Constitutional considerations hampered the Chicago Police Department in preventing this infiltration… but the Police Union itself. 

Between 1992 and 1995 “…at least 15 police officers have been charged with crimes, forced to resign or investigated for membership in a street gang…”  Those numbers have only gone up.  The Police Union position was:  “The union has a responsibility to defend the right of officers to associate with anyone they want…”

 Chicago police are no longer responding in person to 911 calls reporting vehicle theft, garage burglary or simple assault…

Most large police departments have a “phone only” policy… Prowler breaks a window on your car, the police give you a report number and you pass it on to your insurance company.  But Chicago, which has the largest number of gang members in America (more below) has decided that the above crimes can be handled over the phone… Many perps who are in fact caught by the police are caught within minutes of the report… The gangs don’t have to sweat that any more…

The city of the Robocop film where the police largely just protect themselves is nearing reality.  Chicago is the poster child… In 2012, Chicago recorded 506 homicides.. most gang related. Where is the outrage… the hysteria? All that is said is that “Gun control will keep guns out of the hands of gangs…”

The Latin Kings have over 25,000[5][6] members in the city of Chicago alone and have organized chapters in over 41 states and several Latin American and European countries, including: Mexico, Spain, Dominican Republic, Canada, Italy, Ecuador, Peru, Puerto Rico, Portugal, Brazil, United Kingdom and others.

The newly released Chicago Crime Commission publication, “The Gang Book 2012”, conveyed a startling statistic that Chicago has more gang members than any other city in the United States: 150,000 members[7]

Traditionally Los Angeles County was considered the Gang Capital of America, with an estimated 120,000 (41,000 in the City) gang members.[8]

Chicago has a higher rate of gang membership per capita than Los Angeles.[9] The state of Illinois has a higher rate of gang membership (8-11 gang members per 1,000 population) than California (5-7 gang members per 1,000 population).[10]

Gangs Mexican Mafia

LAWOFFICER states: 

The Gang Threats

Presently, there are about 800,000 hardcore street gang members living in the U.S. If you add in the 150,000 or so prison gang members currently behind bars and the 50,000 or so outlaw biker gang members, that’s about 1 million potential threats to officers. More than a few of these 800,000 gangbangers are third- and fourth-generation thugs. Some are as young as 8 years old.

Currently, the FBI recognizes about 40 national-level gangs. By national-level, they mean gangs that have crossed state lines to set up their criminal enterprises. The most recognizable of these national-level gangs are the Bloods, the Crips, the Latin Kings, the Gangster Disciples, Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13), Nortenos-14 and the prison gang, the Mexican Mafia.

However, it’s the emergence of the other 2,000-plus local or neighborhood street gangs that I want to focus on in this piece. This is because the FBI feels it’s these local gangs that pose the greatest threat to law enforcement today.

Recognizing You Have a Problem

Every city has a gang problem, either from national-level or homegrown gangs. My hometown of Rochester, N.Y., has the G-Boyz and the Tremont Street Gang. Tampa, Fla., has the 54th Avenue Gang. Miami has the 77th Street Gang, and Los Angeles has had the 2,000-plus member Florencia (or F-13) gang operating in parts of their city for years. You know who your local gangsters are.

Municipalities that claim not to have a gang problem are in denial: They’re delaying the plague that these street vermin bring to the communities they reside in, which is the first step to being overrun with gang crime.

Gangs are a $5-billion-a-year business. Street-corner drug dealing, drive-by shootings, home invasions, robberies, car-jackings and school violence—not to mention the graffiti and sneaker-adorned telephone wires that gangs use to mark or tag their territory—are just some of the more outward signs that gangs have set up operation in your town.

Law Enforcement’s Approach

History’s shown us that traditional law enforcement tactics haven’t worked to curb criminal gang activity. Just taking down one or two gangbangers for individual crimes still leaves the gang active and operational. Even if you’re lucky enough to nab a gang leader, most still have the juice to run their criminal enterprise while locked up.

Remember: There are almost 150,000 prison gangbangers behind bars, and most prison gangs are just off-shoots of street gangs. Unless the entire gang is disrupted and dismantled, those on the outside are still active and able to keep their illegal enterprises operational. Also, just taking down one or two gang members gives the appearance to the gang that their local police agency is inept and ineffective in completely shutting down their operations.

Large cities have a vested interest in denying that gangs exist… or that they are any kind of a major threat.  Mayors in most large cities can’t think farther than the next election… and they don’t want the electorate to demand action that is both complex and expensive… Police chiefs know that if they want to keep their jobs, they won’t contradict the mayor.

The Seattle Police Department had a chance to nip the gang movement in the bud in the 1980s… but the official policy was that “there are no gangs… just wannabees…”  Meanwhile hard core gang recruiters from California were setting up very real gangs in Seattle.  Google the list of street gangs in Seattle and you will be shocked by the number. For an even bigger shock, look at the number of gangs on the Navajo reservation alone…

 Some mayors try to pretend that most gangs are just another type of “neighborhood association” and are a “positive force…”  Having taken that position… cracking down on them causes outcries of “racism” from radical politicians.

 And of course… the infiltration problem:  LAWENFORCER goes on to state:

Law Enforcement Isn’t Immune

Here’s a tidbit worth mentioning that will piss off a lot of cops. It’s long been accepted that gangbangers have been infiltrating the military for years now. All five branches have been targeted by the major gangs for not only the weapons training, but the assault tactics taught during basic and advanced training.

In fact, military trucks, buildings and walls lining the streets of some of our own military installations are replete with street-gang graffiti.

Now, the dirty secret: Law enforcement isn’t immune to the street-gang infiltration either. In fact, last year, the DEA agent in charge of a local drug taskforce was found to be a high-ranking street-gang member who was actually planning to take down an armored car with a group of his fellow bangers. Luckily, his plan was discovered before it could be put into operation.

Recently a law enforcement agency in southwest Florida was targeted for infiltration by a local gangbanger who’d completed almost all of his pre-employment exams for the police academy—his physical, the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory, his physical agility tests, even his background checks were just about done. If it wasn’t for the sharp eyes of a local street cop who recognized the homemade gang tattoo on the subject’s forearm, this guy might be in the academy as we speak, training on the firing range or even working his way through the FTO program.

 Again, the military is mentioned.  Just as police chiefs know better than to say that “the emperor has no clothes…” generals play down the problem.  It is not that “armies” of soldiers belonging to gangs will overrun the country… it is rather that weapons and tactics training… and access to serious weaponry to equip their gangs… National Guard units have had some of the biggest problems…

 The FBI’s 2007 report on gang membership in the military stated that the military’s recruit screening process is ineffective, and allows gang members/extremists to enter the military. The report listed at least eight instances in the previous three years in which gang members had obtained military weapons for their own use.[3]

“Gang Activity in the U.S. Armed Forces Increasing”, dated January 12, 2007, stated that street gangs including the Bloods, Crips, Black Disciples, Gangster Disciples, Hells Angels, Latin Kings, The 18th Street Gang, Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13), Mexican Mafia, Nortenos, Surenos, and Vice Lords have been documented on military installations both domestic and international, although recruiting gang members violates military regulations.[4]

U.S. gang-related graffiti has shown up in Iraq since the beginning of the Iraq war in 2003. Among the largest American street gangs represented in Iraq are the Gangster Disciples, Crips, Bloods, 18th Street, Nortenos, Black Disciples, Surenos, Latin Kings, TAP Boyz Vice Lords, and Black P. Stones, which originated in some of Chicago’s most violent and impoverished neighborhoods.[5][6] There are also reports of Black Power, African Nations, Aryan Nations, Aryan Brotherhood and Ku Klux Klan gang graffiti in Iraq.[7]

 and

http://michellemalkin.com/2006/05/04/gangstas-in-the-military/

The Administration and the witch hunters play up a relative handful (in a population of 300 million) ghastly incidents.  But the threat of gangs in America is the elephant in the room that they refuse to talk about (except to imply that if law abiding citizens did not have weapons, the gangs would not…)  In fact some sources of gang information are drying up.

 Criminal street gangs are responsible for the majority of violent crimes within the U.S. and are the primary distributors of most illicit drugs, according to a 2009 report by the Justice Department’s National Drug Intelligence Center, or NDIC.

The NDIC was a task force established in 1993 to coordinate law enforcement actions to stop drug trafficking and to curb the growing threat of violent gangs in the U.S. The agency was closed by the Obama administration in June 2011.

Prior to the shutdown of the NDIC, the agency released statistics on street gangs that some found unusual.

In 2010, the agency’s National Drug Threat Assessment stated that drugs were being sold on behalf of the cartels in “more than 2,500 cities.”

Then, in the 2011 official assessment, that number was reduced to “a thousand U.S. cities” – meaning that in one year, criminal drug gangs were cleaned out of 1,500 cities resulting in a 60-percent reduction.

Dave Gibson, a columnist for Examiner.com, asked, “Where were the press releases? Why isn’t the Obama campaign talking about this rather astounding feat every day?”

The NDIC reports were entirely removed from the Justice Department’s website.

An attempt to access the report brings users to a page that reads, “This website is no longer maintained…”

The street gangs have learned what the bikers did before them, and the Mafia before them… If you are swimming in money, you can hire $1200. an hour lawyers.  For many crimes they can get you off… for others they can plea bargain you way down.  If all else fails, they can get you out on bail for a very long time… or if remanded… cause endless delays… (until maybe some witnesses vanish and others have memory problems…) An honest citizen brought up on a “technical” violation or in error gets to face the full weight of government funded prosecution.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn (Gulag Archipelago) talked of how as an artillery officer in the Red Army in WWII he wrote a letter to a relative complaining of Stalin’s wasting of soldier’s lives.  The NKVD showed up and arrested him.

 On the train heading to Siberia there were many soldiers in his situation… there were also many thugs…  Normally the soldiers could have wiped the floor with the thugs… but the thugs had home made weapons… if they were caught with them the guards would simply take the weapons away and give the thugs a beating… “After all… they’re criminals… how do you expect them to behave…?”  But since the soldiers were *not* criminals they fell into the category of *political prisoner*… and a “political prisoner” with a weapon equals… a terrorist.  If the soldiers had so much as a club they would either be shot or have their sentences increased.

It is no use telling the witch hunters or the hysterical that “When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns…”  The hysterical don’t believe that for a second… and the witch hunters don’t care.  They can’t or won’t go after the countless thousands of gang members who are guilty of a felony simply by owning a firearm… which their first felony conviction prohibited… (a feeble effort at some of the right wing crazies… but only if they are without massive financial resources for high-priced “mouthpieces…”)

But like the NKVD guards, they would lead the charge against any honest citizen for the slightest violation… technical or otherwise… on even the slightest suspicion. Standard drill is that if they target you, your firearms will be confiscated and even if absolutely vindicated you may spend years trying to get them back… if ever.

In the early days of this administration, one of their departments prepared a report about terrorist groups… Seemed to obsess on “domestic terrorists” Not so much gangs… but returning combat veterans.  The paper leaked, veterans organizations howled and the administration immediately distanced itself… but the tone was set.  It is not the returning gang members from Iraq and Afghanistan who are the potential terrorists…

Combat veteran

Meanwhile… the good old days of a single burglar who preferred an empty house is giving way in many places to home invasions by numbers of well armed (and legally sheltered) criminals.  As their firepower increases… the move is on to reduce the firepower of millions of honest citizens…(and to eventually disarm them completely…this is not paranoia… it is the often stated goal of most anti-gun organizations to have a “utopia” where only the police and military have firearms…)

Mexico has both the “right to bear arms” and laws that make it impossible for citizens to have legal arms of most types… A .38 pistol here, a single barrel shotgun there… not much compared to what the drug gangs imports from the BATF, the U.S. and other foreign countries.

While many Mexicans have more than what the law allows, they know that (unless they are rich and powerful) that the government will crush them if they show up in public with banned weapons.  At the end of this posting I have attached an item on Mexican gun control laws.

Of major interest to me was that some of the poor Mexicans are finding it impossible to live with the drug gangs… and though miserably armed, have tried to restore law and order… Their courage is of a most desparate sort. I have posted the links immediately below:

 http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/21/16623826-mexicans-weary-of-drug-gangs-form-vigilante-patrols

and… http://reason.com/blog/2012/12/11/mexico-as-an-example-that-tighter-gun-co

Mexican drug cartels operate on both sides of the border.  For now they try to keep a much lower profile on this side… though there are many killings and kidnappings… they try to “keep it in the family…”… for now…

 So, if someone asks you why anyone would want an “assault weapon” you might give a brief summary of some of the above… Have facts and links written down if you are “called” on your statements. 

Remember that you are law abiding citizens… do not make wild statements or comments about “my cold dead hand…” to those who think that maybe “compromise” is a good idea… but are willing to hear you out. 

Keep your politics out of it except where specific to the issue.  Many Democratic Congressmen oppose the witch hunt (if only because they come from “gun” parts of the country…) and some Republicans favor punishing law abiding gun owners. Much of the media loves to interview frightened people about gun control… and then tries to locate the most ignorant inbred yokel to give an “opposing view…” 

You might be the only gun owner that this person knows… They are likely to judge all gun owners by how you comport yourself…

 YP

 More references

http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/real-gun-threat-illegal-alien-street-gangs/  

 http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57559179/china-school-knife-attack-leaves-23-injured/

 http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/1254225/1/.html

 http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/30/15574250-bow-and-arrow-type-attack-leaves-3-dead-in-casper-wyo-including-2-in-college-classroom-officials-say?lite

 

Be Respectful, Candid and Pertinent. No Posers, No Trolls…
  • ArcticWarrior

    YP- Check your PM in the TR

  • YankeePapa

    Roger, done… thanks.
    YP

  • Recon6

    WOW  YP,
    that was highly Informative!!  I will follow your provided links as this is something Everyone needs to read.
    Thanks for posting such a comprehensive analysis of a highly contentious issue, it will be Forwarded to everyone
    I know.
    Again, Thank You…..6

  • ArcticWarrior
  • steelhorse

    Recon6 Man YP i second 6s motion that was an awsome post thanks

  • YankeePapa

    …Some months back the Governor of Idaho sent letters to all U.S. arms manufacturers in “hostile” states inviting them to move to Idaho and offering tax deferrals, etc.  

    YP

  • YankeePapa

    …In case either of you missed the previous:

    http://gruntsandco.com/u-s-ordnance-rogue-fiefdom/

    YP

  • LauraKinCA

    Great post YP! I knew that gangs were starting to creep into the military, but the way you presented the above is a much more insidious reason for them entering… and it makes too much sense. Thanks for the links. Living in Cali… I’m sure they will be useful.

  • Jake75

    Great article YP.

    Colion Noir on Youtube has some really good videos on gun control (imo).   http://www.youtube.com/user/MrColionNoir

  • YankeePapa

    …These rights are not just for men, or the wealthy… or whites.  The NRA (in one of its better actions) defended the right of poor citizens in public housing to have firearms.  God knows that the gang bangers in those projects will be armed regardless of any housing project regulations.
    ,
    …So called “Saturday Night Specials” had the virtue of being cheap.  If you were in an impoverished family in a poor neighborhood, you and yours would be at high risk of bad characters… Going out to buy a pistol to defend your family, you need something that fires every time and is accurate out to 15 feet…  So you can’t afford and don’t need a “Desert Eagle…”

    YP

  • 124YK

    Nice job.  

    Has anyone else heard anything recently about the CA DOJ holding onto DROS applications for no reason and simply not issuing the authorization?  I heard this from a 100% reliable source today and wonder how wide spread it is.

  • YankeePapa
  • LauraKinCA

    Nice sensationalized story. Do you have any idea why the FBI agents were there to “meet” the accused? Seems like there has to be a lot more to this story, like the accused being on the radar of the FBI and more for quite a while.

  • YankeePapa

    …Not sure to what you are referring… Can’t find in body of article that I wrote… It has been 18 months since I first wrote this (only just published…) so if it is in one of the reference areas, I don’t remember it…

    YP

  • LauraKinCA

    Sorry. Referring to the article you just linked in response to my first comment about the National Guardsman caught trying to sell IDs.

  • YankeePapa

    .
    …Ah…  All that I know is what was in the story.  I spotted it and remembered your earlier posting.  Story said that ID’s for his wacko group.  Probably selling stuff on the side and I would guess that they netted him in a sting operation.  
    … While I have not been on active duty in the (American) military for decades… I was, until my 60th birthday an instructor of cadets in a Marine Corps cadet program at a military base near where I live.
    .
    …I got to hear a lot about gang members in the military about theft of military weapons and gear (not just for profit any more…but for gangs and wackos…)  Everything from rifles, shoulder fired anti-tank weapons… night vision scopes… and so on.  
    .
    …Some of this stuff winds up in odd places.  One anti-tank rocket stolen from NATO stocks a dozen years ago was used by a biker gang in Sweden to knock out the “clubhouse” of another biker gang…

    YP

  • The Ed

    Great article YP!

  • KineticFury

    Pretty sure my gov (TX) did the same

  • 5000area375

    Great write up and documentation. There is a trend happening with scumbags concealing real firearms inside toys. I mention this because of the recent shooting of the kid with the AK47 BB gun. I have seen shotguns in super soakers, ruger 1022s in other toys and several others toys.
    There is also the trend with scumbags doing home invasions while pretending to be LEOs to gain entry.

  • ArcticWarrior

    5000area375 Seen them rigged in car grills and motorcycle pieces also…

    Very valid on the LEO/Home Invasion thing

  • YankeePapa

    5000area375,
    …I have heard of muzzles being painted orange.  Back in the late ’70s a bunch of ATF stormed a house based on a rumor… nothing illegal as it turned out… empty grenade you can buy surplus anywhere…
    .
    …The first guys to crash through the doors were plain clothes guys with beards shouting, “we’re cops…”  Owner appeared with cap and ball pistol and they shot him in the head.  For a very long time they tried to claim that he was a criminal… Disabled for life.  
    .
    …Police do have to legitimately storm some places.  It would be best for everybody if only uniforms in the first wave.  That way citizens could have free fire at least on clowns in mufti claiming to be cops.  Of course more sophisticated gangs could “costume up” to confuse the issue.  
    YP

  • 5000area375

    I would advise all citizens to ask to see at minimum a badge and credentials through the peep hole before cracking the door even if the person is in uniform. Preferably have them show their badges, credentials, and search warrant. But absolute minimum a badge and credentials with a matching face picture.

  • 5000area375

    Absolutely correct on all counts YP. I really don’t see a need for busting through a door unless lives are in danger, or the suspect is likely to detonate the building.
    It is too easy for innocents and their dogs to be killed. Some places have a 30 second rule after the knock which if you are getting dressed, in the bathroom, or doing whatever you do in the privacy of your own home could result in you being shot responding to an unknown person busting in your door.

  • ArcticWarrior

    5000area375 Badges can be bought, ID cards not so easy

  • 5000area375

    Yes, which is why it is important to see both the badge and matching credentials. If the badges says sheriffs and the creds say homeland then you wouldn’t want to open the door.

  • YankeePapa

    5000area375,
    …I am not anti-police.  They have a hard and thankless job that has to be done.  But sometimes their methods and tactics need rethought… 
    .
    …In city north of Seattle about 20 years ago a SWAT team got the wrong address, middle of the night.  Normal middle class family… Everybody shouting different commands at the same time (intimidating, but confusing and can cause misunderstandings…)   
    .

    …Police extremely on edge since going after dangerous types.  One keyed up officer triggered a round from his suppressed SMG and in all the shouting, nobody, including him… was aware of it… except one child who saw her mother get hit.  She tried to tell police that she had been shot, but they were all screaming at everybody and yelling at her to shut up…  
    .
    …Some minutes passed before one of the officers spotted blood coming from the mother’s prone position.  By the time they started to deal with it and the paramedics arrived she was dead.  Of course the lawyers for the municipality paid a massive out of court settlement… a long jury trial would have resulted in a titanic award…

    .
    …In *some* (by no means all) police departments, some team members on steroids.  Just what you need when split second judgement required.  
    .
    …And for some reason, a number of departments have at least an unofficial policy of shooting all dogs if SWAT team breaks in… regardless of their size, behavior, or even if they are chained up.  
    .
    …SWAT teams are great when really needed.  Many are extremely professional and can handle the nastiest situations with the minimum bloodshed and collateral damage.  But some teams are not so professional and are a danger to themselves and the community.

    .
    …There is a disturbing trend to massively overuse SWAT teams.  One documented incident… police suspected that large barber shop might be dealing drugs (they weren’t).  Since police did not have enough to get a warrant… they went in to “…inspect the licenses required to be displayed…”  This never requires a warrant.  They sent in a SWAT team… 
    .
    …Articles on the “militarization” of police departments can be found all over the web. SWAT teams are great… all police departments of a certain size should have them… just as all officers should have firearms.  But some departments have tight rules for street officers with their weapons… and little thought for those most likely to have to use lethal force. 
    YP

  • 124YK

    5000area375  Its ironic that the vast majority of legal gun owners would jump into the 6 position for any LEO in distress, yet its only the legal gun owner that is constantly being regulated out of guns.

  • YankeePapa

    124YK5000area375,
    .
    …It is worth remembering that the majority of police officers often do not agree with their big city police chiefs.  Those worthies too often get and keep their positions by not publicly disagreeing with the mayor.  Big city mayors tend to be extremely “liberal…”
    .
    …One disgraceful tactic that has been used by the last several administrations (both parties) is to have the President’s advance men announce to a mayor or governor that the President will be giving a speech on gun control, or keeping the secret library provision of the Patriot Act… or something else.  He requests “wallpaper…”  Wants a large number of police officers… having nothing to do with security… to stand behind him for photo op… so people watching on TV can get the impression that “law enforcement is solidly behind him…” 
    .
    …The officers are always produced… even if they have to be called in on their days off… Screw their kid’s birthday… wedding anniversary… they have been called to serve as wallpaper…  They must stand there for the photo op.  Now of course any officer involved in “security” must ignore any political views that he has… But officers used as wallpaper are subject to severe disciplinary action if they refuse to be political shills.
    YP

  • ArcticWarrior

    YankeePapa5000area375 The 1033 Program needs to go away ……

  • YankeePapa

    ArcticWarriorYankeePapa5000area375,
     http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-10-22/news/sns-rt-us-opinion-shank-20131022_1_military-weapons-law-enforcement-surplus-military-equipment,
    YP

  • YankeePapa
  • 5000area375

    Something overlooked with so called “assault weapons” is safety. Using an “assault weapon” it is easier to train those unfamiliar with fire arms to deliver accurate consistent hits on the intended target and with soft point ammo stopping the threat with fewer shots fired reducing misses and over penetration that endangers innocent parties.
    If facing multiple home invaders the stopping power and magazine capacity can mean the difference between survival and fates worse than mere death. There have been several home invasions where the home owners were brutally tortured before being killed.

  • YankeePapa

    5000area375,
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    …In Australia where there has been gun control to the point of confiscation of many types… home invasions have skyrocketed.  There is no specific crime on the books to deal with home invasion.
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    …The Australian Parliament (at last glance) has spent two years trying to agree on a definition of “home invasion”…. 
    YP

  • HM1 (FMF) Ret.

    Now I had a chance to read it, great article YP, the part I like is the advice at the end, “You might be the only gun owner that this person knows… They are likely to judge all gun owners by how you comport yourself…” Have seen many people turned around from their preconceived notions by taking them to the range and hearing them say, “That was so much better than when XXXXXX took me.”

  • shooten

    YankeePapa5000area375A guy got shot a few years ago not far from me when an informant gave his house number to the DEA.  He thought his house was being invaded and grabbed his pistol.  He was shot twice.  He won a very large sum of money from the Feds too.  He was lucky he wasn’t killed.

  • YankeePapa

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/14/us-mexico-violence-idUSBREA0D01M20140114?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&rpc=76
    …See original story attached to article about Mexican vigilante groups…
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    -YP-

  • YankeePapa

    …Chicago is not the only police department to be infiltrated by criminal gangs… but it certainly has a history… long before the 1990s…  Few Americans are shocked… at least about Chicago… but…
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    …A place that one would not automatically suspect as having been infiltrated… 
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-corruption-of-britain-uks-key-institutions-infiltrated-by-criminals-9052617.html
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    -YP-

  • ArcticWarrior

    http://cbp.gov/xp/cgov/newsroom/news_releases/local/01072014.xml
    http://cbp.gov/xp/cgov/newsroom/news_releases/local/01072014_2.xml
    YP, look at the $$$ involved (scroll through the other press releases, note the cash values and currency loads…… those vigilante groups that are not either cartlets or affiliated with a Cartel have no chance…the Jalisco situation…dont be fooled by who the puppetmasters are…..

  • YankeePapa

    ArcticWarrior,
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    …One sure way to tell the legit outfits… Who has the old shotguns and .32 revolvers? Just like “Animal Rights” (sic) groups who hijacked the honorable label “Animal Welfare” from the non-crazies… doubtless the label “militia” proved convenient… Some bogus from the start… 
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    ..The one overriding fact is that the government doesn’t run the show in far too many places… and in many where it does… it is the property of the cartels…
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    -YP-

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    …Seems that the Chinese need “knife control” legislation.
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    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/least-27-dead-dozens-injured-china-knife-wielding-spree-n41966
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    -YP-

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  • Ed Durham

    Thanks for the link YP. I can’t wait ti read it.

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  • steelhorse

    I new about choke point but hadn’t heard about the smelter it’s all bad and we still got another 2yrs of this guy and the republicans are already coming up with excuses not to do anything what next. Well thanks for the info Yp

  • YankeePapa
  • YankeePapa

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    …Info leaked about military/police/feds/etc. belonging to biker gangs…
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    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/05/22/atf-report-warned-military-government-membership-outlaw-motorcycle-gangs/
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    -YP-

  • YankeePapa 
    I don’t disagree that gangs are seeking military training from service members.  Where I am highly suspicious is how widespread or effective they are.
    The article mentions some Air Force personnel involved.  Unless they are Security Policemen or out of AFSOC I don’t think they are going to transfer a lot of deadly skills.
    The media LOVES to cite when some nut is a military member e.g. the shooting in N. Dakota today.  There are concrete reasons the media gravitates towards these incidents.

  • YankeePapa

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    …While many police departments (especially not in large cities) give good advice to citizens… there are those who… well…
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    https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q589.htm
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    -YP-

  • caseymac1944

    Waterborne On point W!

  • YankeePapa

    Chicago is still the poster child for demanding citizens be disarmed while utterly failing to get a grip on largest gang community in the U.S…. Now, new and improved… some with hard wired connections to Mexican cartels…  Meanwhile, the shooting continues…

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/chicago-records-300th-homicide-with-13-over-fathers-day-weekend/ar-AAhl6Cv?ocid=mailsignout

    -YP-